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Wildwatch
    09/29/09 at 08:02 AM
  Reply with quote#16

The bird bodies should be sent to Ward Stone of the DEC.  There's a DEC office in LIC for the NYC area and they will send them up to Delmar.  The number listed is (718) 482-4922 from this website: http://www.dec.ny.gov/about/558.html 
 
Hopefully, someone will also speak out against the use of poison. 
 
Peter Coates
    09/29/09 at 09:02 AM
  Reply with quote#17

The rain of warblers seems to have stopped now.  Probably this is not a symptom of the problem going away, but rather that they have left the area.   Next year, if it happens again,  I'll know better, and gather them up and take them to the Bronx Zoo for a professional look.

In response to Linda's advice about the professional bird rehabilitators,  I think some closer analysis of this issue is in order.  I don't want to be argumentative with someone who clearly has the interest of birds at heart, but with all respect, while it is true that such a person likely to do better with a given bird than an amateur, it's seldom a real option, is it?  God may see every sparrow fall, the rest of us are pretty busy.  In practice, unless you've stumbled across a hawk or a whooping crane, the choice tends to be either put it in a shoe box for a few hours and see if it gets better, or walk away and let the neighbors cat have it. 

It sounds cold, but that is pretty much what such a policy boils down to for the 99% of birds that do not belong to a species that excites sympathy.  Moreover,  unless the bird happens to be of a large and attractive species, is the rehabilitator likely to do anything different?  In most cases, certainly not---we just don't live in a world with ICU units for sparrows. Therefore, it seems unrealistic to draw a regulatory line that says either you do nothing, or you take the day off and figure out how to deliver the bird to a government approved person.  If this sounds cynical, it's not---just try the experiment of taking the next ratty looking pigeon you find dragging a lame wing to a bird rehabilitator.  

The well-intentioned rules about not caring for an animal yourself actually have an effect that is the opposite of their expressed purpose; what they do is outlaw the responses in the middle, the only ones that are practical in almost all cases, and give strong moral support for doing nothing .  It's a classic case of the unintended consequence of a seemingly good idea. 

I think when we look closely at these rules, what we find is that they exist primarily to protect animals that have some perceived value, or rarity. And this is not a bad thing, but it is important to recognize that the rules really do not exist to help one unimportant creature do a small good turn for another, and in fact discourage effective action in the overwhelming majority of the cases where one might act effectively at a realistic personal cost.










Linda
    09/29/09 at 09:36 PM
  Reply with quote#18

Putting the bird in a box for a few hours that has no obvious signs of injury is probably fine, like I said, the bird may just need to re-orient itself and will fly away.  Rehabbers even suggest this.  But, those rules exist for the protection of wildlife and people, as wild animals can pose a zoonotic disease risk.

I don't think the issue is so black and white as you put it (or requires a whole day off to take the bird to a rehabber).  What can require time, money, energy and heartache, is trying to care for the animal yourself.  Simply go to the state DNR site, find a nearby rehabber and contact for advice.  He/she will tell you what is best for the bird and what you can do to help.  Although pigeons, house sparrows and starlings are not federally protected, plenty of rehabbers intake them, too.
Denise Edelson
    09/29/09 at 11:30 PM
  Reply with quote#19

Dear Friends to the Birds:
I suggest you take one or more of these dead animals and then reach Dr. Ward Stone (NYS Pathologist) in Delmar, NY. He will advise you about mailing these to him for necropsy.
There will be no charge to you, the sender. Ask to get back a copy of the cause of death. The
Bird Club should receive one too for their records. Dr. Stone's results will be definitive, window
hit, poison or some other thing. Dr. Stone's telephone is 518-478-3032.
Thanks -
Denise
LEENIE
    10/05/09 at 12:06 AM
  Reply with quote#20

WHAT EVER IT IS THAT ANY BIRDS ARE DYING OUT SIDE YOUR BUILDING . PLEASE WRITE A LETTER TO THE MAYOR OFFICE OR MAYBE THE HUMANE SOCIETY SPEAK TO THEM TALK TO THEM WRITE THEM . CALL ABC NBC NEWS GET SOMEONE INVESTIGATING IT . LETTERS ARE GOOD AND CALLING EMAILING .I THINK ITS WEIRD THAT BIRDS ARE DYING IN FRONT OF YOUR PLACE . I BARELY EVER SEE A DEAD BIRD AND IF I SAW MORE THEN ONE ,WELL I'd START WRIT TING LETTERS AND EMAILING ALL THE NEWS REPORTERS .   
luciedove
    10/07/09 at 07:14 PM
  Reply with quote#21

From:
 
Greetings,

Thank you for letting us know and my apologies for taking time on responding. I am going to forward this information to our people in our conservation department immediately. Our program "Project Safe Flight" deals with exactly this issue.

Best,
Erik
Ryan
    10/12/09 at 03:00 PM
  Reply with quote#22

I work right on 26th & 5th as well and yes there is a huge problem.  There is at least 2 birds a day just lying there.  I hope someone helps to solve this problem.  Its very sad but even worse if someone steps on them!

Thanks!

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