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Concerned
    11/23/09 at 05:43 PM
  Reply with quote#316

To Just Confused:

You say in your closing paragraph, "The experts are saying all is fine at Arcadia."  The so-called experts went on an inspection, looked around, and left.  Unless they inspected the birds individually, which they did not, just because a bird sits on a perch does not deem it healthy!  Those "experts" hung up on me when I called to report something of concern at Arcadia, actually yelled at me, and told me "don't ever call here again."  And that's a quote!  Those are our experts, those are the people who oversee abuse?!  I was yelled at, spoke to like a criminal and hung up on!  And that was by a very high up so-called EXPERT!  I was also told by another organization that they are limited as to what they can do because of the lack of specific laws overseeing the care of birds.  So just because the "experts" take a drive over to Arcadia, get out of their car, look around, get back in their car, and go on their way, does not a true inspection make!  Were any birds examined, even touched, to check for health, weight, etc.?  What about all the birds that have died there?  Are they reported to F&W, as required by law?  Is her permit updated to note this, as required by law?  We shall see, because that is public information and, if the correct forms are sent to F&W, must be provided to the public. 

I'm sickened that this place is still open.  Terri took on the responsibility of caring for these birds, and it is her responsibility to do that to the utmost.  It is her  responsibility to provide  them with the proper food, proper size caging, proper ventilation, proper heat, proper everything!  And if she can't do that, get out of rescue!

All I can say is Arcadia better have proper housing for every single one of those birds this winter, or else there will be NO birds having to live like that at Arcadia come next winter.  I promise you that!


Jane
    11/23/09 at 07:10 PM
  Reply with quote#317

SPCA knows nothing about the care of exotic parrots, and I mean zilch.  They require that the birds have food and water -- no matter that the water is stagnant and hasn't been changed in over a week, no matter that the food is mold, THAT IS ALL THEY REQUIRE!!! They enforce the laws which require that the animal has food and water.  Arcadia Sanctuary is a trailer in the back of her home.  In the winter it is freezing cold, in the summer it is sweltering hot. The birds cannot get out of the cages and are forced to endure extreme temperature changes with no proper ventilation.  The SPCA knows nothing about the care of tropical parrots!!!!

HARRIETTE
    11/24/09 at 12:17 PM
  Reply with quote#318

I WAS AT THE  PET EXPO IN THE MEADOWLANDS AND STOPPPED AT THE ARCADIA BOOTH AT WHICH POINT I WAS TOLD - BY THE OWNER OF ARCADIA- THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE SITES BASHING ARCADIA BUT IT IS ALL UNTRUE. SHE ALSO WENT ON TO SAY SOMEONE PAID WORKERS TO STAGE FAKE PICTURES AND VIDEO OF SCENES THAT SIMPLY NEVER EXISTED. I HAPPEN TO BE AN EXPERT IN VIDEOGRAPHY AND PHOTOGRAPHY AND WAS HOPING TO SEE THAT THESE ACCUSATIONS WERE FALSE UNFORTUNATELY, THEY ARE NOT.
I ALSO HOLD A MASTERS IN PSYCHOLOGY AND AM QUITE IMPRESSED AT HOW CRAFTY AND CONVIENCING THE OWNER IS AT BEING THE "VICTIM"
IF THE OWNER IS THE VICTIM HER THEN FOR THE PARROTS SAKE, ASK TO TOUR THE FACILITY AND MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION.
Concerned
    11/24/09 at 02:33 PM
  Reply with quote#319

Harriett:  No one is "allowed" to tour the facility!  So that, right there, should tell you something.  The people who were "hired" to care for the birds at Arcadia were paid by someone who was trying to help make conditions better at Arcadia.  That person paid out of their own pocket to have these volunteers help out, which was very much needed at Arcadia!  But because these people truly cared about what was happening to these birds, their suffering, they tried to speak up...and that's when they were let go! 

Believe me, people would love to go to Arcadia and see the birds, how things are, bring food, toys, but they are not allowed!  Terri, how would someone go about going to see your facility?  You have nothing to hide, right?


GET REAL!!!
    Yesterday at 11:48 PM
  Reply with quote#320

Quote:
Originally Posted by JUST CONFUSED
OK, let me get this straight.  Arcadia Bird Sanctuary is supposed to be a bird concentration camp.  But wait a minute.  The SPCA has been there to inspect four times.  The first inspection was on Memorial Day and the inspectors came in the middle of a family picnic Terri was having.  Now how could she have known about it in advance, and how could she have "cleaned up" to prepare for it?  She not only passed that inspection, but the other three also.   The town Board of Health has been there to inspect twice, and Arcadia passed every time.  NJ Fish and Wildlife has been there to inspect, and Arcadia also passed that inspection.  Does anyone really believe Terri knows that many people in all these agencies that she can influence all these inspections?  And does anyone really believe all these people whose responsiblity it is to enforce the various laws are that stupid that they would jeopardize their jobs to pass a place that has been receiving so much publicity?  And if the place has been cleaned up so as to pass all these inspections, then what's the problem????
 
People on this thread are telling people to go there - that defenders of Arcadia should see it in person.  Well, I go there regularly and I can tell you that there are no buildings with rodents.  The birds are in excellent condition.  The buildings are heated.  The birds are fed Zupreem, and none of the bags are expired.  There is no dog food being fed to the birds. Terri has two dogs - of course there will be dog food around!
 
The birds are vet checked TWICE a year.  How many of you vet check your birds twice a year?  How many of you even vet check once a year?  But yet there will be those who say I am just defending Terri. Well, yes, I am. Because I do go there and I do know the true conditions there.  And the other person who went to Arcadia and said all was OK was bashed, too. 
 
Arcadia Bird Sanctuary is a private facility.  Yes, they are a Sanctuary, but they are privately funded.  No one has the RIGHT to go there to inspect them, nor does anyone have the RIGHT to go there at all.  Terri does not have to allow anyone on the property.  Just because you say you care for birds does not make any of you an expert - and if you have ever "rescued" a bird or if you have over, let's pick the number 5, birds, then you could be called a rescue.  Would you open your home for anyone to come in any time?  Have you ever asked for a discount for a bird you have rescued?  People on this thread have said because Arcadia accepts donations, they should open to the public.  Well, if you give Arcadia a substantial donation, I am sure you will be welcomed,.  If you have never donated to Arcadia, then you are nothing but a busy body who has jumped on this bandwagon without even knowing where it is going.
 
It is being said that this isn't personal against Terri, but if Arcadia has passed all these inspections and people who go there regularly tell you that conditions are fine - what more do you people want?  The people who are orchastrating this whole thing do have a personal vendetta against Terri for some reason.  And all you who are feeding into this are following along without knowing the true facts.  They are saying pictures don't lie.  Well, these do.  Those birds that were supposed to be killed - look closely.  They were autopsied.  The girl who took the photos works in Terri's vets office.  Who is to say whose birds these were and where the pictures were taken?  And the video - that bird was taken out of its cage and put in that set up.  No bird EVER lived like that at Arcadia.  But you won't want to believe this - the truth isn't as dramatic as the lie.
 
People are saying Terri isn't defending herself.  No - why should she respond on this site?  You people don't identify yourself, yet are so quick to put Terri's name and home address out to the public.  Read all the threads.  Several people have called and Terri spoke with them.  The conversations were put on the site and ripped apart.  Terri was called a liar. But she has defended herself to people who call her and identify themselves.
 
If you are a thinking person - think about all this.  Don't get caught in the emotion of it all, but start to be rational and think about it.  The experts are saying all is fine at Arcadia.  It is these fanatics who have some grudge against Terri that keep this whole thing going.  Do you really want to be a part of all this?
 
 

HAVE YOU NOT SEEN THE PICTURES POSTED HERE? FORGET THE VIDEOS - THE PICTURES ARE BAD ENOUGH!!! MACAW HEADS, PILES OF DEAD BIRDS, RATS AND DOG FOOD! ENOUGH WITH ALL THE HIRED GUNS HERE - AND THE PAYOLA TO THE SPCA AND THE STATE OFFICIALS TO TURN THEIR HEADS. IT IS WHAT IT IS AT THIS HELLHOLE POSING AS A SANCTUARY. SOMEONE GET THESE BIRDS OUT OF THERE! CALL THE LOCAL NEWS STATIONS. DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO BUT SAVE THE LIVES OF THESE POOR BIRDS! PLEASE! THIS WOMAN IS A HOARDER WHO BELIEVES HER OWN LIES!!!!!

C.A.
    Today at 08:40 AM
  Reply with quote#321

Does this situation at Pets Alive ring a bell:  http://news.bestfriends.org/index.cfm?page=news&mode=entry&entry=2D1299AE-BDB9-396E-93307A371F47F219

It is time to contact Best Friends Animal Society.
C.A.
    Today at 08:51 AM
  Reply with quote#322

File a complaint here:  http://www.pet-abuse.com/pages/home.php

Concerned
    Today at 10:01 AM
  Reply with quote#323

TO GET REAL:

You seem to have an answer for everything.  You say you go there regularly, know what goes on, you say the pictures are fakes, etc.  So, it seems like you know everything and can answer everything.

Okay.  Here's something for you to answer:  Why is it that, even after birds were ripped apart and attacked by predators while they were "stored" outside in their cages, they were not protected and brought inside?  Why?  After the first bird died a horrific death being torn apart, WHY did the birds remain outsite, only to be "sitting ducks" and more killed this way? Does that sound like someone who cared for the welfare of those birds?  WHY WERE THEY NOT PROTECTED, WHY DID THEY STILL REMAIN OUTSIDE, WHERE OTHERS DIED THE SAME WAY...ATTACKED?

Answer that.  Let's hear the answer to THAT question. 

Cate
    Today at 10:14 AM
  Reply with quote#324

Quote:
Originally Posted by Concerned
TO GET REAL: You seem to have an answer for everything.  You say you go there regularly, know what goes on, you say the pictures are fakes, etc.  So, it seems like you know everything and can answer everything. Okay.  Here's something for you to answer:  Why is it that, even after birds were ripped apart and attacked by predators while they were "stored" outside in their cages, they were not protected and brought inside?  Why?  After the first bird died a horrific death being torn apart, WHY did the birds remain outsite, only to be "sitting ducks" and more killed this way? Does that sound like someone who cared for the welfare of those birds?  WHY WERE THEY NOT PROTECTED, WHY DID THEY STILL REMAIN OUTSIDE, WHERE OTHERS DIED THE SAME WAY...ATTACKED? Answer that.  Let's hear the answer to THAT question. 


Why may I ask hasn't the woman who lost two birds horrifically while they were in the care of Terri, bring suit?!
After all she entrusted those birds to be safe at Arcadia and they both died slow excruciating deaths, while she was battling for her life. This story would definitely bring attention to the matter of Arcadia, if it was brought out publicly and not just on this forum. Bring suit, get the press involved and expose her for what she is. We can sit here and debate what Terri is and the care or the lack of care she provides but the only person, in reality that could possibly bring the attention needed to this situation is that lady who lost her birds.
Concerned
    Today at 10:41 AM
  Reply with quote#325

To Cate:

Everything takes time, but there will be justice for ALL the birds that died  there, especially those two birds.


Wondering
    Today at 12:36 PM
  Reply with quote#326

To Get Real:

You say:  "They are saying pictures don't lie.  Well, these do.  Those birds that were supposed to be killed - look closely.  They were autopsied.  The girl who took the photos works in Terri's vets office.  Who is to say whose birds these were and where the pictures were taken?"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that bird in the pictures had its head ripped from it's body by a predator as it sat helpless, caged, and, at Arcadia.  Correct?  If not, maybe you can somehow set the record straight?   


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