| Nancy Grace |
| | 05/22/09 at 12:37 PM | Reply with quote | #1 |
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| I want the public to be aware that not all sanctuaries are good for unwanted birds. I don't care how desperate you are to get a bird out of your house- you need to investigate first. Arcadia Bird Sanctuary might have a good reputation on the outside, but in my opinion no bird deserves to live there on the inside. Birds do not come out for attention (unless Terri chooses them to) and she only gives attention to about 5 birds. The attention you see her give them in public is limited. They live in trailers and are not allowed out of the cages. All birds are surrounded by filth. There are thick spider webs in the trailers. There is an extreme smell of death in some trailers due to rat infestation. You can visibly see rat poop under the cages. The rats are fed rat poison and walk around burning from the inside out. They die behind bird cages and are left there. (hence, the stench) they get inside the cages and can poop in the bird food after eating rat poison. Some birds have extreme cases of diarrhea and are not treated. There is a neurological bird living on top of another bird's cage. Her feet get caught in the grate and she flails about like a nervous wreck. She can hardly stand but doesn't stay in a house for supervision. There is no air conditioning in the trailers even though the website says there is. There is an application to adopt birds but none are allowed to be adopted. There are many adoptable birds there, so why can't they go to a home? Most people I know would rather rescue than purchase a bird from a breeder or pet store. Why do birds go in but not go out? Are these birds happy? NO!!!! THEY DESERVE MORE. Please I do not recommend that anyone bring a bird there based on the conditions that exist -- it is overpopulated. Some birds are in small cages (and remember- they are not allowed out - EVER!! THEY STAY IN THERE FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIFE). The owner never turns a bird away, despite the overpopulation and despite the lack of funds to give them medical treatment if needed. Is this possibly a hoarder with an oversized ego? |
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| stella |
| | 05/22/09 at 05:15 PM | Reply with quote | #2 |
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Can ASPCA go in there and seize the birds? What can we do to help these birdies?
That is horrible. We need to do something...
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| Janet Helstrom |
| | 05/22/09 at 05:19 PM | Reply with quote | #3 |
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Hi Nancy, thanks for this story! You can go to website http://www.arcadiabirdsanctuary.org/ to check them out. My question what can we do to shut this place down? I was so sad to hear about this but glad to have public awareness. Please advise us as to what we can do in this case. ASAP! |
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| sarah |
| | 05/22/09 at 05:20 PM | Reply with quote | #4 |
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Hi,
Where is this sancutary? Please give the address. Have you called the humane society to report this? Can you call the media? Is this in NY?
The ASPCA may help. Please take photos of what you described. If you can video tape it it's even better.
Thanks for your concern,
Sarah
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| gigi |
| | 05/22/09 at 05:22 PM | Reply with quote | #5 |
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where is Rescue located, and what is being done about it? I am dealing with same situaton in N.C. and most states have no laws in place protecting birds or prepared to go in and do a seizure. Typically you have to find an "animal rights" attorney to get to a judge to decide if the birds can be seized because of the conditions and you or others be in place to take all birds. With that said, all info must be as accurate as possible and a follow through plan must be in place for judge to see.
Thank you for being one more bird person out there. We really can make a difference-if only for one today!
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| Janet Helstrom |
| | 05/22/09 at 05:28 PM | Reply with quote | #6 |
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The rescue is located in Freehold NJ 07728 PO box 548 phone is 732-995-8562 or fax 732-462-0377 email ArcadiaBirds@aol.com Terri's credentials are very impressive so sad this is going on and something needs to be done here now!!
I will contact the ASPCA and the HSUS right now, any more suggetions please advise us all. Thanks!
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| stella |
| | 05/22/09 at 05:38 PM | Reply with quote | #7 |
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What about emailing Terri individually with our concerns and see what she respond.
From there we can take further actions. We can't allow this to happen. These birdies they were already abused or abandoned by they guardians so is very unfortunate that she is also treating them soo poorly. This is so sad an unfair.....Maybe we can all go and visit the Sanctuary and raise our concern in person....
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| Cate |
| | 05/22/09 at 05:58 PM | Reply with quote | #8 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by stella
What about emailing Terri individually with our concerns and see what she respond.
From there we can take further actions. We can't allow this to happen. These birdies they were already abused or abandoned by they guardians so is very unfortunate that she is also treating them soo poorly. This is so sad an unfair.....Maybe we can all go and visit the Sanctuary and raise our concern in person....
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| Kathy |
| | 05/22/09 at 05:59 PM | Reply with quote | #9 |
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I agree, I think she should have a chance to tell us her side. The problem with some rescues/sanctuaries is that they d o believe they are better in the sanctuary then given another chance in a home. I do not agree with that, especially if the bird is tame. They should not be locked up in a cage for the rest of their lives in sanctuary.
There unfortunately is a fine line between "rescue" and "hording." They all to often become the same.
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| gigi |
| | 05/22/09 at 06:14 PM | Reply with quote | #10 |
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Yes-someone will probably tell her-she will clean up-buy some food-get them out of the cage a little just in case someone stops by---then it goes back to the same thing. My lady couldn't even feed her 100+ birds! But she was a "Petting Zoo" A means of living! Element of surprise and pics "of the birds" not floors etc.........Don't let her know what you are doing in other words and anything else you can get. It takes work folks. Call the vet school to get students in there for vet care-call the local newspaper to advertise for volunteer cleaning-call the local grocers to see if they will throw old fruit and veggies in a bag and leave them on her doorstep if she's too proud! Set a Parrot on counters to raise money where you live to start a fund to rent a van and gather carriers to go in and pull all of the birds out. It just means thinking out of the box! I'm in Ga. but I will do anything I can! |
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| stella |
| | 05/22/09 at 06:19 PM | Reply with quote | #11 |
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I was checking the website of Arcadia Bird Sanctuary and they are also an Educational place, they do workshops and they have Open House where people can go and visit the Sanctuary. So, how is it nobody complain about it before. Do you think that they don't aloud people to see it all? they have an Open House on Jun. 28. Also they have days where people can help to prepare the Sanctuary for the summer months. And they do have adoption booths. Maybe I didn't get it right, anybody can help me to understand what is happening there??
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| Janet Helstrom |
| | 05/22/09 at 06:29 PM | Reply with quote | #12 |
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Hi I have contacted the HSUS, and Also the ASPCA. The ASPCA has called me right back and is looking into the matter. His email is fsaracino@NJSPCA.org also his phone number is 973-735-3082 |
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| June |
| | 05/22/09 at 06:33 PM | Reply with quote | #13 |
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An absolute hoarder...no question IMO! Hoarders have a whole different approach and mindset than someone who is actually "rescuing" an animal...
Hoarding is a mental illness, and needs to be dealt with with that in mind, she also needs desperate help herself because she does not see what is going on around her, when it is all so evident to anyone else. ASPCA need to be told about the hoarding and they will have mental health support for her along with the fact if her very own living conditions are suitable for her to live in...most are not and lead to the building or home in question being abandoned or condemned if it has gone past a certain point of no return. If she is found to be a "hoarder" she will not be allowed to keep anymore than a certain number of pets in her possession, if she is found incapable, she will not be allowed to have ANY pets in her possession ever. and they do check to make sure she is following the courts orders and rules with surprise visits from ASPCA and all mental health providers involved.
And "MOST, not all, but most hoarders, hoard numerous things, not just animals, If this is true that she is a hoarder, I bet her living conditions are non-existant...
Something has to be done to help these animals...but she obviously needs help herself to see that she is NOT helping these birds, she cant see it the way you and i do...how unfortunate for these poor birds.
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| margaret |
| | 05/22/09 at 09:36 PM | Reply with quote | #14 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Janet Helstrom
I will contact the ASPCA and the HSUS right now, any more suggetions please advise us all. Thanks!
Janet Helstrom - Who the hell are you to contact the ASPCA and HSUS regarding a sanctuary that you have never been to? Do you believe everything you read and take it for fact? HAVE YOU BEEN THERE TO WITNESS ANY OF THIS?
Nancy Grace - when were you at the sanctuary? Please let us know when that was and whether you took pictures.
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| Donald Jenner |
| | 05/22/09 at 09:49 PM | Reply with quote | #15 |
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The problem is a complex one. The need for sanctuary is enormous. I have had to release marginal birds because I could not find a place for them.
All those bird-lovers out there seem to like the birds as long as they themselves are not inconvenienced by giving them a home, being for them a flock, accepting the not-inconsiderable responsibility for care — medical and otherwise.
Then one seeks for a sanctuary — and finds none of them have unblemished records. This one plays favorites — birds with sugar-daddies get care, birds truly orphaned might as well be in an Irish Catholic children's shelter.... That one is more abusive and doesn't muck out the cages regularly.
What is most noticeable: There are no people sitting down and identifying strategies for solving the problem. Just bitch bitch bitch. In all the postings above, only one person advanced a practical plan — essentially, to be good animal loving neighbors to these folks, get them functional and keep them that way. That is a far better solution than getting them busted and one more option removed.
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