| Mary Jean Green |
| | 04/14/08 at 01:57 PM | Reply with quote | #1 |
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This is to alert everyone that there is a Canned Shoot Bird Hunt operating in Sag Harbor, NY under the radar. They are known as Spring Farm.
They have thousand of birds on the premises and breed them as well. There is one small pond surrounded by netting from which the birds cannot escape since it is crammed with birds and also covered with mold and algae.
The birds are released for the shoots and wounded ones fly off the private property onto public trails where they drop and lie until they die, littering public property with decaying flesh. Wounded and disoriented birds also soar onto a main turnpike nearby during and after each shoot. After each shoot, the dead birds ( most propbably wounded as well ) found on the privaate property of Spring Farm are collected and placed in huge piles on the property. The owner says they are donated for food, but a nearby wildlife rescue facility has treated wounded birds found on the roadway and finds large amount of lead in their bodies.
In addition to the inhumane shooting activities, this facility is in our aquifer overlay district and the pond water is entering our sole water supply, together with lead from thousands of shot casings littering the landscape.
Please spread the word and boycott this facility. We are working locally to shut them down but it will be a long battle in this area.
Please, anyone, write to: Linda Kabot, Supervisor
Town of Southampton
116 Hampton Road
Southampton, NY 11968
to object.
She can be reached at lkabot@southamptontownny.gov. Also please contact the town council member in charge of animal control and issues, Anna Throne-Holst at athrone-holst@southamptontownny.gov.
If you wish to see photos of the horrendous conditions at Spring Farm go to http://www.flickr.com.
Thank you for your support in this effort.
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| Mary |
| | 04/14/08 at 06:37 PM | Reply with quote | #2 |
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You say the birds are full of lead shot- to the best of my knowledge, lead shot has been banned in NYS for several decades by the EPA. Perhaps they should be contacted?
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| OMG |
| | 04/14/08 at 06:44 PM | Reply with quote | #3 |
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Are you serious? I actually thought canned hunts were illegal in NY.
Now may be the time to call Hillary after she messed up the AETA vote and said she didnt really "get it" that it would hurt animal advocates...that was posted here.
Get people to write and call her office asap, too, before she decides to not run anymore....
Especially since she was saying her family were hunters and she identifies and all that stuff....so you can show her the evil of the canned hunt and she will say there's a better way blah blah blah....
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| Yvonne |
| | 04/14/08 at 07:22 PM | Reply with quote | #4 |
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My husband, Peter, and I have a house in Sag Harbor where we spend most weekends. It's on an acre and abuts woods and is not far from Spring Farm. Anyway, for the eight years we've had the house we hear the gunshots, especially on weekends. On rare occasions we've seen escaped pheasants from this 'canned shoot' farm on our property. We can tell that they're from the farm as opposed to wild pheasants because they have some sort of plastic thing on their beaks. Not able to get close enough to see, I hope it's not something that stops the birds from eating and drinking which ensures a slow, horrible death but I think so. Better to be shot I guess. I feel rather nervous walking on our property when I hear the guns. Especially since deer hunters are allowed in the woods and their gunshots sound pretty loud too. On occasion we've seen hunters walking on our property. I got really angry and addressed one young guy, dressed in the fatigues that our guys in the service wear. I asked him what he was doing, gun in hand, walking on my land. He nervously replied that he had wounded a deer and was tracking the blood to try to finish it off. I gave him a piece of my mind. I told him he was a total coward...and that wearing army fatigues was an insult to our boys who were fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan. And what was he doing? Killing small, innocent creatures...for fun? I actually swore at him. He was scared. However, he probably still kills. But back to now feeling safe on one's own property. I never walk with my dog there now because these weekend canned shoot people and deer hunters aren't the greatest shots. Right next to people's homes. It shouldn't be allowed. |
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| Evelyn |
| | 04/14/08 at 09:01 PM | Reply with quote | #5 |
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Regarding the canned shoots I wont even bother writing to Senator Hillary about it because she wont care, or at least thats my experience with her.
I remember that before the Iraq war began there were so many marches and demonstrations against the war. My daughter and i participated in one of these which began right underneath her office window geez i cant remember the address it feels like so long ago.
But we stood there for several hours shouting anti war slogans and asking her to vote against the iraq war and later I found it she voted for the war anyway. Not once but several times and even as recent as last year she voted in order to spend more money on the war.
I think that if women dont teach their husbands and male children as well as female children as of birth that hunting is wrong and is a spiritual crime , it will always continue.
There is one lady who used to talk of herself a spiritual person at myspace.com who was my friend. One day I read one of her blogs and about how happy and excited she gets when she accompanies her husband out on a deer hunt and I almost fainted from the news.
I wrote a comment on her blog telling her that it is up to us women to change the world and make it into a better place and that when my husband does serious something I dont agree with I will talk to him over and over until he can see the reason why its wrong. I didnt go back to read her comment to my comment just in case she might insult me (yes yes i know i am a bit cowardly) and to my surprise she sent me a friendly greeting later on.
Im wiritng a letter via postal mail to New York governor David Paterson:
CONTACT INFORMATION
Phone: 212-681-4580 and 518-474-8390
Fax: 518-474-1513
E-mail: http://www.state.ny.us/governor/
Address: Executive Chamber, State Capitol, Albany, New York 12224. Lets see what he says. Dang it when are we going to become civilized? ~Evelyn Frances
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| Anntelope |
| | 04/14/08 at 09:37 PM | Reply with quote | #6 |
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Why isn't anybody taking advantage of craig's list about this issue? Just about everybody reads craig's list including newspaper reporters. I think this is just dreadful. As for the person who has heard the gunshots and seen the birds etc.,
I don't understand why you haven't complained to someone. You can't even safely walk on your own property not to mention having to be subjected to witnessing these atrocities to poor, defenseless animals. Anyway, I suggest you post about this at craig's list. Do it often and well. Sooner or later someone WILL notice. Best of all, you can do it anonymously.
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| A. Crus |
| | 04/14/08 at 10:22 PM | Reply with quote | #7 |
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Have you tried getting the Humane Society, PETA, and the ASPCA involved in this? They have large, active member lists, excellent PR capabilities, and the ability to distribute pre-written advocacy emails that allow people to fill in their info (and an additional paragraph if they choose) and send it off. I would guess they get a higher response since the effort they are asking for is less. They have all sent out lots of info in the past about canned hunts, but I have never seen anything that related to birds. |
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| Evelyn |
| | 04/14/08 at 11:32 PM | Reply with quote | #8 |
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Hi guys This i what i found in the human society's web site and some addresses to write to
~Evelyn Frances
Imagine a ram standing peacefully. Then imagine this same ram being shot over and over again by arrows. Still not dead, the ram is shot to death. Why was this done? Simply for amusement and so the killer could get the ram's head as a trophy. This is the world of canned hunting. Canned hunts are hunts that occur in areas where the animal has no reasonable chance of escaping. Usually animals who are accustomed to human handling are used in canned hunts so they do not even attempt to escape their killers. Many of these animals are from zoos. The killers choose the animal they wish to kill, which is guaranteed, and pay substantial sums of money in advance of the kill. The New York Legislature passed a law a few years ago to address canned hunting but the law is inadequate because it does not prohibit canned hunting if the area where the animal is being hunted is more than ten acres. The canned hunt facilities in New York contain hundreds of acres. The animals do not make substantial efforts to escape their killers regardless of the acreage because their lives have been so manipulated that they expect food, not death, from humans. Even if they did make an effort to escape, they are prevented from doing so because of fencing and other barricades. As Mike Winikoff, the investigator who filmed the ram being shot, stated, "If there's a fence, then there are corners to that fence, and any animal may be easily pushed towards those corners, trapped, and killed, by even the most inexperienced hunters…The animals have no chance whatsoever to escape." YOU CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS UNNECESSARY SUFFERING AND DEATH. Immediately contact the following New York State legislators to urge them to support A. 1728 and S. 2576: Senator Joseph Bruno, Telephone: (518) 455-3191; E-mail: bruno@senate.state.ny.us Assemblyman Sheldon Silver, Telephone: (212) 312-1420 or (518) 455-3791; E-mail: speaker@assembly.state.ny.us Also, call or E-mail your New York State Assemblyperson and New York State Senator. If you do not know the names of your legislators, call the League of Women Voters, Board of Elections or check the NYS web site at http://www.assembly.state.ny.us.
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| Evelyn |
| | 04/14/08 at 11:35 PM | Reply with quote | #9 |
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Dear Anntelope
if i write something regarding the canned hunts on craig's list where on the list do I write? under what category? thanks Evelyn Frances
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| CM |
| | 04/15/08 at 07:21 AM | Reply with quote | #10 |
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That is really horrible. I tried emailing Linda Kabot and it was returned--am I the only person who had that problem? |
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| Zelda Penzel, PEACE |
| | 04/15/08 at 09:36 AM | Reply with quote | #11 |
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Hello Folks,
I am writing because We are fighting a canned shooting establishment here in Sag Harbor, New York known as Spring Farm. They go under the guise of a poultry and egg farm but kill thousands of birds during season. They are not a private club and are open to the public. They shoot European turkeys, pheasants, mallards and other ducks. There are hundreds of dead birds in piles and wounded and dead birds on nearby properties and flying into cars on nearby roads.
If you have any advice or help you could offer us, we would be grateful.
Thanks,
Mary Jean Green, Southampton Town, NY 11968 ........................................................................................................ Spring Farm Disaster...Letters to SH Press and Councilmember Throne-Holst
To the Editor: At the Town Board meeting on April 8, 2008, local and concerned citizens came to express their outrage and disgust over a situation at Spring Farm in Sag Harbor, that has been allowed to sneak under the radar, for far too long. There, thousands upon thousands of wild birds are held captive under the most wretched conditions, for eventual slaughter in "canned shoots", a "sport" in which confined birds are released to be shot with virtually no chance of escape. Those who do not die immediately, suffer protracted, agonizing deaths. "Canned shoots" are devoid of all compassion and fair play, making the hunter nothing more than a sanctioned killer in a shooting gallery. Like "canned hunts", such shoots are considered the "sport of cowards", even by hunters. A sport implies a mutual contest in which both sides are willing participants with equal attributes and chances. One could hardly say that about the thousands of birds, imprisoned on Spring Farm. When captured and released for the shooters, they are indeed little more than "sitting ducks". - Is there a serious or dangerous environmental issue that needs to be investigated concerning the rotting corpses of dead birds, the filthy groundwater conditions and the litter of countless gunshell casings that were observed, photographed and submitted to the Board?
- Is there a danger to the public, especially hikers, either directly from stray gunshots or the accidents that could and have been caused by motorists trying to avoid wounded and disoriented birds on the Turnpike?
- Is there a cruelty issue involved if birds are left to suffer and die?
- Is there a "nuisance" or "disturbing the peace and quiet" issue, if neighbors complain about the constant noise of the thousands of gunshots they are forced to endure from dawn to dusk, even on Sundays?
- Is there a violation of the law, if wild and domestic game are able to "mix and mingle"? This is prohibited, presumably, because of the possibilities of the transmission of disease that exist if a bird escapes.
- Are the dead birds consumed by people and/or family pets? According to the Spring Farm owner, the dead birds are collected by workers, put in piles on the property and then distributed to the poor. The abnormally high lead content found in birds suffering from gunshot wounds who escaped and were taken to the Wildlife Rescue Center, would make this a serious health hazard and a reckless disregard for the well being of those who eat them.
- Are the appropriate "hunting" dates and licensing being observed insofar as the killing of game?
Why people who managed to get 6 million dollars of taxpayer money for the "development rights" of their property need to sell for profit, the right to cruelly kill thousands of beautiful birds, is a mystery to most civilized people. They must be laughing all the way to the bank. And even more puzzling is the defense offered by their unenlightened friends at Town Hall. Supervisor Kabot, was quick to use her position and control of the bully pulpit to explain away as "tradition", the obscene and unconscionable treatment of the thousands of birds who are mercilessly butchered in these hideous shoots. This type of slaughter, is no "tradition" but rather, a lame excuse for a money-making scheme that caters to those who "kill for the thrill". Times change and many former "traditions" are now outlawed and considered barbaric. We no longer hunt whales; public hangings and lynchings, human slavery and most forms of animal abuse are now all illegal and considered repugnant. Isn't it time to put an end to the killing of innocent, defenseless beings for amusement? Should we not more importantly be teaching our children compassion and concern for others rather than how to kill creatures that inhabit the Earth with us? In the words of Christian theologian Andrew Lindsey, "All life is holy, sacred or God-given. Life therefore has intrinsic value, and all that lives has an interest in living". It is surely time for Southampton to say "No more slaughter for greed! No more killing for fun". Zelda Penzel, President PEACE~People for the End of Animal Cruelty and Exploitation ............................................................................................................................................... Dear Councilwoman Throne-Holst, First I would like to congratulate you on your election to the Town Board. I look forward to working with you. Since you are in charge of animal issues, I'm writing to express my concerns and supplement my comments to the Board on April 8, concerning the Spring Farm problem. Among the many issues that need to be considered, I believe that the following are of urgent and immediate concern: - Is there a serious or dangerous environmental issue that needs to be investigated concerning the rotting corpses of dead birds, the filthy groundwater conditions and the litter of gunshell casings that were observed, photographed and submitted to the Board?
- Is there a danger to the public, especially hikers, either directly from stray gunshots or the accidents that could and have been caused by motorists trying to avoid wounded and disoriented birds on the Turnpike?
- Is there a cruelty issue involved if birds are left to suffer and die?
- Is there a "nuisance" or "disturbing the peace and quiet" issue, if neighbors complain about the constant noise of the thousands of gunshots they are forced to endure from dawn to dusk, even on Sundays?
- Is there a violation of the law, if wild and domestic game are able to "mix and mingle"? This is prohibited, presumably, because of the possibilities of the transmission of disease that exist if a bird escapes.
- Are the dead birds consumed by people and/or family pets? According to the Spring Farm owner, the dead birds are collected by workers, put in piles on the property and then distributed to the poor. The abnormally high lead content found in birds suffering from gunshot wounds who escaped and were taken to the Wildlife Rescue Center, would make this a serious health hazard and a reckless disregard for the well being of those who eat them.
- Are the appropriate "hunting" dates and licensing being observed insofar as the killing of game?
As an educator, a teacher for over 30 years, I have always observed how much children love animals and would never want to harm them, which makes it all the more appalling that these same innocent children are being encouraged to enroll in hunting programs to learn how to kill animals and to become indifferent to their suffering and pain. I find that it teaches senseless cruelty and violence to our children and offers a lesson in immorality and disrespect for the wildlife who share this planet with us. The kids at Columbine, as well as those involved in many of the other school shootings and just about every mass murderer/serial killer, tortured and killed animals long before they ever pointed a gun at people. They were totally dehumanized and desensitized to what it means to take a life, oblivious and indifferent to the suffering they caused. I hope you will be mindful of this, when new areas of public land that should be set aside as preserves and sanctuaries for wildlife, and for the use of the majority of citizens and visitors, are instead opened for hunters. If there is no plan presently in place, we ask that the Town put forth at once, a plan to preserve and protect critical habitat so that the wildlife that we all love can continue to co-exist with the two-legged inhabitants of Southampton. I am attaching my full comments prepared for the Board that I was unable to read, due to time constraints. I trust you will find them helpful and will share all of our concerns with the other Board Members. We urge you take prompt action to investigate and remedy the concerns described above. I look forward to hearing from you and working together. Zelda Penzel, President PEACE~People for the End of Animal Cruelty and Exploitation "Think occasionally of the suffering of which you spare yourself the sight." |
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| Evelyn |
| | 04/15/08 at 10:44 PM | Reply with quote | #12 |
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Hello again.
Last night I posted 3 bulletins regarding the canned shoot at myspace.com
Today I posted about it on Craig's list in the pets section only because I wasnt allowed to post it again in the news section.
Usually I get a good response from people at myspace.com but probably people are sick of me always complaining about animal cruelty so I got no response yesterday.
Acually myspace.com has hundreds of animal activist organizations so perhaps what I need to do is to send them individual emails.
Our work is cut out for us and we should never tire of it. We will most likely not see a compassionate society majority towards birds or any other animal but if we work continuously and without tiring, our great grandchildren will enjoy a different type of society. ~Evelyn Frances
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| Evelyn |
| | 04/15/08 at 10:46 PM | Reply with quote | #13 |
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Oops I almost forgot to say that I wont go back to Craig's list to read any responses to the posting regarding the canned shoot. This way I wont get depressed , angry, sad or give up on trying to
reeducate humanity : )
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| Carol |
| | 05/02/08 at 04:09 PM | Reply with quote | #14 |
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Thank you for your efforts to close down this facility. I have written the following letter to the town supervisor and the town trustees of Southampton.
Town Council Member Anna Throne-Holst
116 Hampton Road,
Southampton, NY 11968 Dear Councilwoman Throne-Holst:
I spend my summers on the East End of Long Island in your district and it has come to my attention that there is a Canned Shoot Bird Hunt operating in Sag Harbor, NY known as Spring Farm.
They have thousand of birds on the premises and breed them as well. There is one small pond surrounded by netting from which the birds cannot escape since it is crammed with birds and also covered with mold and algae.
The birds are released for the shoots and wounded ones fly off the private property onto public trails where they drop and lie until they die, littering public property with decaying flesh. Wounded and disoriented birds also soar onto a main turnpike nearby during and after each shoot. After each shoot, the dead birds ( most probably wounded as well ) found on the private property of Spring Farm are collected and placed in huge piles on the property. The owner says they are donated for food, but a nearby wildlife rescue facility has treated wounded birds found on the roadway and finds large amount of lead in their bodies.
Lead contamination in animals killed by lead bullets and then donated to food banks has been recently uncovered in an article written by Associated Press Writer, James Macpherson, entitled "ND tells pantries to discard venison:"
States health officials have told food pantries in North Dakota to THROW OUT DONATED VENISON AFTER FRAGMENTS FROM LEAD BULLETS WERE FOUND IN THE MEAT..."We're asking all the food pantries to throw it out in a landfill...
The Associated Press article further states that according to "Health officials," health risks from lead poisoning by eating donated venison from killed deer are greatest to:
CHILDREN AGE 6 and YOUNGER and PREGNANT WOMEN are at GREATER RISK FOR LEAD POISONING, which can cause confusion, LEARNING PROBLEMS, and CONVULSIONS, and in severe cases can lead to BRAIN DAMAGE and DEATH...Dr. William Cornatzer, a Bismark physician and long-time hunter, said he collected about 100 one-pound packages of ground venison from food pantries in December with the help of health officials. 'Sixty percent of the packages had multiple fragments of lead in them - I about fell out of my chair,' said Cornatzer, a long-time hunter.
In addition to the inhumane shooting activities, this facility is in the aquifer overlay district and the pond water is entering the sole water supply, together with lead from thousands of shot casings littering the landscape.
Please shut this horrible facility down so that I can once again enjoy my summers in your district.
Sincerely,
Carol Rivielle,
West Orange, NJ 07052 |
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| Arlene B. |
| | 07/05/08 at 05:07 PM | Reply with quote | #15 |
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Is this still going on? If so, I will have to write in to the town and complain about this. I will let them know I will not visit Southampton, nor spend my money there when I go out to the east end of Long Island because they permit such things to occur. I will also let them know that I will encourage everyone I know to avoid the area too until the canned shoots are stopped.
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