| luciedove |
| | 03/21/08 at 03:26 PM | Reply with quote | #1 |
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WHAT: A Caged Bird is a Sad Bird - Peaceful Demonstration against Bird Paradise WHEN: Saturday, April 12, 2008 from 2:30pm - 4:30pm
WHERE: Bird Paradise, 551 E. Rt. 130 S, Burlington, NJ 08016
Every year thousands of birds are bred and sold by one of the largest bird stores in the nation: Bird Paradise. Pet store birds are deprived of their natural environment and imprisoned in tiny cages. Reach Out for Animal Rights (ROAR) will be teaming up with Mobilization for Animals to demonstrate at Bird Paradise.
Maybe you've seen the late night commercial on the local channel where Bird Paradise brags about having thousands of birds for sale. View their websites and make sure to check out the "Bird TV" video.
On their own website, they claim they are the "World's Largest Bird Store". Let's tell them that profiting from the exploitation of birds is not something to be proud of. To see video of actual bird mills, visit http://www.projectperry.com/birdmills.html
Parking is available on the side streets next to Bird Paradise. Please do not pull through Bird Paradise’s parking lot. RSVP appreciated but not required. We will be carpooling to Bird Paradise after the Monster Pets demo. As with all of our demos, signs and leaflets are provided, but feel free to bring your own.
Contact: justroar@comcast.net for more info. http://www.myspace.com/reachoutforanimalrights Note: Intimidation by Bird Paradise for asserting our right to protest under the 1st Amendment Constitution. When we went out to demo at this location for National Bird Day, Bird Paradise's owners tried to intimidate us. Even though we had contacted the city's Police Department by phone prior to the demo, the owner somehow persuaded the officers on duty to ask us to leave. We were not able to demonstrate. Since then, we've met with the very polite Chief and Lieutenant at the Police Department. They have guaranteed that we will not encounter any problems conducting our future demonstrations. They even took us out to the location to show us exactly where we can park and stand during our demos. |
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| Margot |
| | 03/23/08 at 08:41 AM | Reply with quote | #2 |
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I think you are protesting the wrong store. I've been to Birds of Paradise and they far excel any store in there helpfulness and caring of the birds. I am on a bird forum and saw this post. I think you will find it tells the real story about this store in t his post. I'm not talking about Bird of Paradise either. Here is a short version of some of what was said on another board:
he told me he got the scarlet from Todd Marcus because his cousin got a B&G there and his father used to keep macaws but he called me in desperation because the bird already hates his girlfriend and most other people in the house and he has no idea what he's doing with it. I'm not comfortable telling him t o take the bird back to the story because he seems very attached to it and the father has bird experience. The bird is in a very very large kings cage, one that I could sit comfortably, and stand in with a little jumping room if you can believe it. (I'm guessing...3K for the cage.) So I went to see him and the bird last night, he had no idea about sleep scheduals for the birds, no clue about what to buy her for fruit and only one toy dangling in the cage. Aparantly though she's been eating just fine her problem is she doesn't like women though.
I had no clue though, that any pet store would sell a bird without it being fully weaned...
The man is NOT AN EXPERIENCED HAND FEEDER to my knowledge. Maybe it was the fact he was wearing an expensive suit
The man owns a penthouse condo with marble floors and diamond chandilers, I am really uncomfortable staying in a strangers apartment (he did not offer anyway) to take care of a bird. His father has had macaws before, but refuses to take her in if she's handfeeding.
This store is located in Delran not far from Birds of Paradise. They sell unweaned birds to anyone who has money. This store says they have 25 years of selling birds to the public and is on the corner of 130 and Chester Ave in a public shopping center. I've driven by there at night after they are closed and the lights are still on at night - don't the bird ever get a chance to sleep? They are more interested in advertising there business by leaving the lights on then letting there birds get some rest. |
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| MM |
| | 04/04/08 at 08:02 AM | Reply with quote | #3 |
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I had received an email a while ago asking me if Bird Paradise, in my opinion, was a decent place to buy a bird. Well, I have been to this chain a long time ago - maybe back in the 1970's...they had wall to wall birds in cages 6 inches X 6 inches (no flight pens)- awful. I did purchase a very young, newly weaned fledgling...however - I did see birds much older whom I am sure spent a good amount of time in their tiny enclosures!!!!!!!!!! |
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| ron |
| | 04/11/08 at 03:36 PM | Reply with quote | #4 |
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Being the largest parrot rescue in the nation now, we thank you for what you are doing up there. We are now housing over 1200 birds on our 9 acre facality Located in Harlem Ga, featheredfriendsforever.org is our web site. At an average of 1 new bird daily we soon see that there is a need for more rescues all over the country or far less breeders that dont care so long as they go to the bank the next day. We now have 3 affilated locations and are hopoing to open atleast 5 more over the next 2 years. They will all be true non profits just like we are now, so all donations go directly back into the rescue efforts and the birds. |
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| Look at This TOO!!! |
| | 04/12/08 at 12:34 AM | Reply with quote | #6 |
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http://www.dailyrecord.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880411019
BURLINGTON, N.J. (AP) -- Animal rights groups have approval to demonstrate in front of a Burlington County bird store.
Bird Paradise had sued three groups in an effort to block a protest planned for Saturday.
The American Civil Liberties Union aided the groups and says a state judge in Burlington County dismissed the case on Thursday.
A message seeking comment from the owner of the store in the city of Burlington was not immediately returned. The name of its lawyer was not immediately known.
The animal rights groups oppose selling and keeping birds as pets.
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blackstrap wrote:
Liberals doing what they do best...causing nothing but disruption and discourse. They think they are doing something good. It's all about "feelings" and "caring" for the little birdies. What would life be like without them?!
AND LOOK AT ALL OF THESE!
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200880411045#pluckcomments
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SpurburyPD wrote:
Are these protestors for real? They can't be serious. Get a life already. Go protest something meaningful. I can't see the harm in someone buying and caring for a bird. God forbid, someone buys a bird and feeds it and takes it to the vet when it gets a cold and gives it a warm, preditor free house. What is the world coming too? People like to protest things nowadays just to feel important and meaningful in this world. Go volunteer in a homeless shelter or something, people. An utter waste of time....
and keep on reading all the comments cuz theres LOTSmore. Looks like this protest will fall upon deaf ears!
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| Mark Caponigro |
| | 04/12/08 at 01:57 AM | Reply with quote | #7 |
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This confuses me: The AP story in philly.com ends with the sentence, "The animal rights groups oppose selling and keeping birds as pets." And yet there are a large number of forums in this website in which people share information about the care of their bird companions from several species.
So, is the AP story wrong about supporters of animal rights opposing keeping birds as pets? Or, if the story got it right, and if the moderator of this site is herself a supporter of animal rights, as I believe, then why do so many people who have birds as companions find this site as welcoming as they clearly do?
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| I looked at it |
| | 04/12/08 at 08:58 AM | Reply with quote | #8 |
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Did you read the comment in APP.com where someone posted a link to the protestor's home page? This group chained themselves to dog houses and boy to do they give new meaning to the saying "Dog ugly". The one picture of them in front of her house looks like a bunch of beached whales. The house looks barely habitable except for maybe some cockroaches but she probably feeds them. Here it is http://www.dogsdeservebetter.com/Chainoff2007/rachelogden.html
Good luck to Birds Paradise today. If I lived closer I would come out and support you all. I hope you all get lots of support - looks like you might get a lot of people who are going to protest the protestors.
Now I'll go give my Amazon a hug and I won't get bit either. |
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| A2 |
| | 04/12/08 at 11:01 AM | Reply with quote | #9 |
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First of all you can’t even see her home in any photos just the front steps and the foundation and there is not a thing wrong with it for you to claim it’s not inhabitable. It’s just like every other bungalow in south Jersey. Sorry if it’s not McMansion enough for you. How sad that you have to go to personal attacks of the body types young women who were just trying to draw attention to a tremendous problem in the USA, that of chained dogs. You probably think THAT’s ok, too. If it’s SO OK, do some research before mouthing off and doing personal attacks. There happens to be legislature all over the country including in PA to prevent dogs from living that miserable life of being chained outside for years. Not to mention the victims who don’t even have relief of a simple dog house and straw. In case you didn’t know it, THAT’s rampant too. Many jurisdictions have no laws against this inhumane abuse and neglect. Anyone wishing to help a chained dog can donate to this particular initiative on PETA’s website where you can donate money that goes SPECIFICALLY to a dog who gets a safe, dry clean dog HOUSE and straw to put inside it. Why don’t you people try and HELP an animal instead of proselytizing against anything and everything someone tries to do to actually make a difference in this world. OH, I forgot, you have a reason….you chose to live in your imaginary world where birds LOVE being your captive entertainment. |
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| Angie |
| | 04/12/08 at 12:16 PM | Reply with quote | #10 |
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ACLU-NJ Ensures Bird Store Protest Can Take FlightFor Immediate Release
April 11, 2008 Burlington, NJ - The American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey yesterday beat back a lawsuit from a Burlington bird store that sued three animal rights organizations in an effort to block them from gathering this Saturday, April 12, in front of the store. Bird Paradise also sued the City of Burlington, which had approved the gathering. "We were surprised at the lengths Bird Paradise went to try to silence us," said Rachel Ogden, the founder of Reach Out for Animal Rights, one of the organizations protesting the store. "Fortunately, it won't be a silent spring, but springtime for the First Amendment." Yesterday Bird Paradise agreed to have the case withdrawn or dismissed, and today the New Jersey Department of Transportation approved a permit for the demonstration. The gathering, to protest the practice of selling and keeping captive birds as pets, will take place as planned Saturday, from 2:30 to 4:30 p.m., in front of Bird Paradise on Route 130. "The City makes the determination of whether to allow a demonstration, consistent with free speech policies," said ACLU-NJ Legal Director Ed Barocas, who represented Reach Out for Animal Rights, Mobilization for Animals and the New York Bird Club in the suit. "A company can't independently sue to squelch public speech simply because it doesn't like what people are saying." The case was captioned Animals Etc., Inc. d/b/a Bird Paradise v. New York Bird Club, et al. The organizations will gather Saturday from 2:30 to 4:30 p.m. in front of the Bird Paradise store on 551 Route 130 South.
http://www.aclu-nj.org/news/aclunjensuresbirdstoreprot.htm
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| D Plaia |
| | 04/12/08 at 01:03 PM | Reply with quote | #11 |
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You may wish to ask yourself why is it that the ACLU is claiming victory but has never identified what the allegations were in the complaint. The complaint is a matter of public record and can be viewed by anyone who takes the time to investigate. There were no constitutional rights issues involved. Instead, the first allegation is for trespass, the second allegation concerns a lack of proper permitting and the third allegation is a failure of the City to enforce the law.
The events transpiring prior to the filing of the law suit were as follows: the protesters wanted to protest on Bird Paradise's private property. When Bird Paradise objected and tried to amicably settle this without resorting to legal action, Bird Paradise was told they had to get a court order. Hence, Bird Paradise was forced to file a complaint.
Moreover, Bird Paradise repeatedly told everyone, including the Attorney for the ACLU that the area where the protest was being held is a dangerous area. Bird Paradise also offered an alternative area where the protest could be safely conducted and which would have given them more exposure to its clients. However, the ACLU attorney was not concerned about the safety of his clients.
Ultimately, the ACLU conceded that the protest could not be held on private property. Further, they were unaware that a permit was needed. The attorney for Bird Paradise, not the ACLU, contacted the D.O.T. who is responsible for issuing permits.
Once it was agreed that the protest would not be conducted on private property and once the protesters agreed to obtain the proper permits, Bird Paradise voluntarily dismissed its complaint.
You should also be aware that a grievance is being filed on Monday with the Office of Attorney Ethics against the ACLU attorney who has disseminated false information to the public.
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| Megan |
| | 04/12/08 at 01:48 PM | Reply with quote | #12 |
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You and your tactics will not stop people from demonstrating against Bird Paradise. All you're doing is running a bird factory in my opinion. Your way is bullying, intimidation, harassment and threats. You're the lawyer, aren't you? I understand there is another lawsuit against 14 allegedly innocent people that you initiated. Are you are harassing and bullying them too? In my opinion, you are paid trash. |
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| Doris |
| | 04/12/08 at 01:58 PM | Reply with quote | #13 |
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If they are public record, I'd like to see the allegations. Let's see them or show us where we can find them.
No one's claiming victory -- victory is birds living in the wild and no longer in cages. Isn't that the idea.
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| protester |
| | 04/12/08 at 04:15 PM | Reply with quote | #14 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by D Plaia
You may wish to ask yourself why is it that the ACLU is claiming victory but has never identified what the allegations were in the complaint. The complaint is a matter of public record and can be viewed by anyone who takes the time to investigate. There were no constitutional rights issues involved. Instead, the first allegation is for trespass, the second allegation concerns a lack of proper permitting and the third allegation is a failure of the City to enforce the law.
The events transpiring prior to the filing of the law suit were as follows: the protesters wanted to protest on Bird Paradise's private property. When Bird Paradise objected and tried to amicably settle this without resorting to legal action, Bird Paradise was told they had to get a court order. Hence, Bird Paradise was forced to file a complaint.
Moreover, Bird Paradise repeatedly told everyone, including the Attorney for the ACLU that the area where the protest was being held is a dangerous area. Bird Paradise also offered an alternative area where the protest could be safely conducted and which would have given them more exposure to its clients. However, the ACLU attorney was not concerned about the safety of his clients.
Ultimately, the ACLU conceded that the protest could not be held on private property. Further, they were unaware that a permit was needed. The attorney for Bird Paradise, not the ACLU, contacted the D.O.T. who is responsible for issuing permits.
Once it was agreed that the protest would not be conducted on private property and once the protesters agreed to obtain the proper permits, Bird Paradise voluntarily dismissed its complaint.
You should also be aware that a grievance is being filed on Monday with the Office of Attorney Ethics against the ACLU attorney who has disseminated false information to the public.
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| Read This |
| | 04/12/08 at 07:44 PM | Reply with quote | #15 |
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http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/112-04122008-1517935.html
Pet store withdraws suit against protesters
By LAURI SHEIBLEY
Burlington County Times
BURLINGTON CITY — An agreement has been reached to allow animal rights groups to protest outside Bird Paradise, a large bird store along Route 130. Owners of the store had filed a lawsuit against the animal rights activists about a week ago in an attempt to stop the protest. But they withdrew the lawsuit Thursday and Superior Court Judge Ronald E. Bookbinder dismissed the suit. The protest is scheduled to go on as planned this afternoon. The New Jersey-based Reach Out for Animal Rights organized the protest. The group does not believe that birds should be bred and kept in captivity. The protest was posted on the Web sites of two other animal rights groups, Mobilization for Animals and the New York Bird Club. Kathie Hahn, a co-owner of Bird Paradise, said she decided to seek an injunction against the three groups after learning about the protest. “We wanted to make sure that ... the groups got all the appropriate permits and permissions,” she said. Hahn said members of Reach Out for Animal Rights trespassed on Bird Paradise property and parked their cars in the store parking lot during an attempted protest at her store a few months ago. She said the activists have a right to express their opinion, but they should not be allowed on the store's private property. She also said it is dangerous for protestors to gather along busy Route 130. Rachel Ogden, organizer of Reach Out for Animal Rights, said she obtained permission from the Burlington City police for the protest at Bird Paradise. She said the store had no basis for its lawsuit.
“They sprang this lawsuit on us, thinking we would just back away,” Ogden said. The American Civil Liberties Union of New Jersey represented the animal rights group. Ed Barocas, the union's legal director, said Bird Paradise had “no right to object to a protest that is approved by the city and the state.” Lawyers for both sides sat down Thursday. Hahn said Bird Paradise agreed to drop the lawsuit if the protestors agreed to stay off private property and acquire the proper permits. The group plans to protest from 2:30 to 4:30 p.m. today along Route 130 in front of Bird Paradise. Ogden said the group will conduct its protest on land owned by the state Department of Transportation, which has granted them permission to do so. Hahn said she believes her store is being targeted because it is large and well-known. She said the store takes good care of its birds, and recently raised $12,000 to combat a deadly avian virus. But Ogden said birds are not domesticated animals and should not be kept in captivity. “Bird Paradise, maybe at one time it was about the birds, but now it is really about the money,” she said. “If you loved birds, you wouldn't be selling them. Profiting from the exploitation of animals is not something to be proud of.”
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