| Marian HM |
| | 09/06/09 at 09:01 PM | Reply with quote | #61 |
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Probably the one that was bringing the food and nesting is the male - but more importantly you are a true blessing as you are going to keep this new canary and not treat him as a function or an object. Very INSPIRING!!! Marian HM |
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| Karen |
| | 09/07/09 at 02:22 AM | Reply with quote | #62 |
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Males sing when they are horny, females seldom sing -- just tweet. A DNA test would be more exact. |
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| Carlin |
| | 09/07/09 at 10:00 AM | Reply with quote | #63 |
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Thanks all for your replies, a very informative forum, I was also wondering if it is OK to leave the two birds in the same cage all the time or if they should only be in together during mating season? They get along fine, no fighting or anything, so far anyway. And would putting them in separate cages cause the male to sing, or would they just be lonely now that they have been in together? Thanks Carlin
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| Marty |
| | 09/07/09 at 01:13 PM | Reply with quote | #64 |
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Hi Carlin,
The first canary sounds like it is a female. The fact that the new one was bringing it food and nesting material to the nest would at first seem that it was a male but since it has stopped, who knows. Since you found an egg then at least one of them is a female but as you said "who".
You could have then genetically tested but for what reason? Even if they are both females your not going to return the one you last bought. Just leave them be and try to give them a good life.
Good luck,
Marty
Quote: Originally Posted by Carlin Hi all, I have a canary I've had for about a year, it chirps but doesn't sing so I thought it might be a female. So I went to the local pet store and bought a second canary about a month ago , it chirps and tritters abit more than the other but not a full out song. Today when I went to clean out the cage I found an egg in the bottom. Unfortunatly I have no idea who layed it. The new canary would bring food and nesting material to the first canary when I first brought it home, but I don't see it doing that anymore. Is there any way to tell what sex they are? They get along fine, but the pet store gives 8 weeks for the new bird to sing and then return or exchange it,(which I would hate to do at this point, it's family now after all). Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Carlin
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| Audrey |
| | 09/07/09 at 09:39 PM | Reply with quote | #65 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Carlin Thanks all for your replies, a very informative forum, I was also wondering if it is OK to leave the two birds in the same cage all the time or if they should only be in together during mating season? They get along fine, no fighting or anything, so far anyway. And would putting them in separate cages cause the male to sing, or would they just be lonely now that they have been in together? Thanks Carlin
If they get along fine, they would do well being together all the time....canaries are flock birds and enjoy one another's company. A single bird will become lonely. |
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| Carlin |
| | 09/18/09 at 07:10 PM | Reply with quote | #66 |
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Hi all, I have another question concerning the bird that I think is a female. She spends a lot of time (most of the day) sitting on the bottom of the cage, she also will breath funny and make kind of a squeaking noise. I have been feeding them with a pellet they seem to like and I have been putting vitamins in their water as well as giving them lettuce, broccoli, and fruit. The bird that I think is the male is the one that is sleeping in the nest at night, but I have found no more eggs. Could the female be egg bound? What are the symptoms and what should I do if she is? Thanks for your help Carlin
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| mary |
| | 10/01/09 at 04:32 PM | Reply with quote | #67 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by Carlin Hi all, I have another question concerning the bird that I think is a female. She spends a lot of time (most of the day) sitting on the bottom of the cage, she also will breath funny and make kind of a squeaking noise. I have been feeding them with a pellet they seem to like and I have been putting vitamins in their water as well as giving them lettuce, broccoli, and fruit. The bird that I think is the male is the one that is sleeping in the nest at night, but I have found no more eggs. Could the female be egg bound? What are the symptoms and what should I do if she is? Thanks for your help Carlin
oh Carlin, i wish somebody saw this sooner. she was probably egg bound. if by chance her egg was so soft her body absorbed it which is extremely rare and can cause other problems, she probably didn't make it. i'm so sorry. i'm going to paste a piece of article by "Myra" that has saved my birds in the past. copy and google it to find the source. .....
" How do I treat my Egg Bound hen?
Remove the female from the cage she had been in. Give her one-drop of Calcium Plus directly in the mouth. She needs to swallow it. Then place her in a small brooder, hospital cage, or just a small spare cage. Use a heating pad to warm the cage. Try to keep the temperate between 80 and 85 degrees Fahrenheit. Use a dish of water for her to drink from and to add humidity to her environment. I usually drape a small towel over a few sides of the hospital cage to help keep in the warmth and humidity. Make sure there is food and water inside the hospital cage that is in easy reach from the floor. The female may not perch until the egg is out so everything must be accessible from the floor. All you need to do now is wait. Once she is in the hospital cage and has had her Calcium Plus leave her alone. The added stress if seeing humans on a regular basis while she’s that vulnerable won’t help matters. Usually the egg will be passed within 16 hours. After the hen has passed the egg she will look and act perfectly normal again but should rest and not allowed to breed again for awhile. I prefer to leave an egg bound hen in the hospital cage until I am sure she is finished laying her clutch. Most become egg bound on the first egg of the clutch. This means there are at least a few more eggs on the way....." i hope this helps if this ever happens again. this has worked for me 5 times in the past, but i've heard it isn't a guarantee. now i focus on prevention (also in the above article in it's entirety) , and hope you and other readers of this will too. and by all means, please keep this stuff in your first aid kit- 'cause ya never know. w/luv4allbeings, mary
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| Carlin |
| | 10/20/09 at 01:23 PM | Reply with quote | #68 |
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Hi Mary, Thanks for your reply. The bird did survive, this isn't the first time this has happened. She will come to eat and drink (looking fine) but then goes back and stays on the bottom again. She is now up and back to normal as this seems to be a periodical thing but I am keeping track to see when and how long these episodes last. Thanks for the info on egg binding, I will refer to it if this happens again. Thanks Carlin
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| ALEX |
| | 01/07/10 at 07:20 AM | Reply with quote | #69 |
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| hey ,just wanted 2 ask , the female should build her nest before mating or it s not necessary ?? |
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| ALEX |
| | 01/07/10 at 07:24 AM | Reply with quote | #70 |
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| another question, i introduced the male 2 the female ,i couldnt tell,,,is she refuising him or it takes a little time 4 them 2 mate (the male was kind of following her with wide open wings while she was runnin' , dont know , i left them about 5 min then i got the male out, couldnt tell if it was a fight! dont know! opinion ?? |
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| Marty |
| | 01/19/10 at 07:20 PM | Reply with quote | #71 |
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Hi Alex,
Whenever a male displays his wings in an open fashion to a hen then this is either a dominance issue or most probably an unfriendly gesture. Either way please keep them apart for the time being. What you can do is to put them into separate cages, right next to each other so that he can still be able to feed her through the bars of the cages. He may develop a liking for her in time, so just see what happens in the future.
Good luck,
Marty
Quote: Originally Posted by ALEX another question, i introduced the male 2 the female ,i couldnt tell,,,is she refuising him or it takes a little time 4 them 2 mate (the male was kind of following her with wide open wings while she was runnin' , dont know , i left them about 5 min then i got the male out, couldnt tell if it was a fight! dont know! opinion ?? |
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| gordano |
| | 02/20/10 at 02:22 AM | Reply with quote | #72 |
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I have 6 canaries all siblings, keeping them in a large flight cage together. I am not sure if they are males or females , they are 1 yer old but none of them is singing, just chipping and stuff like that not actual songs. they are getting along pretty good so far , but a week ago one of them started chasing another one around the cage. It is not interested in other 4 on any of them in he or she , just them two . If anyone knows what is going on ,or any idea please let me know
thanks.
BTW they were accident , I am not a breeder so i dont know much about this stuff |
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| Marty |
| | 02/20/10 at 11:36 AM | Reply with quote | #73 |
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Hi Gordano,
Since it is just about mating season what you have there is a male that is doing the chasing after that female. That male will soon be singing so at least you will know the gender of that one as well as the gender of the one that he is chasing.
Since they are all siblings you do not want them to interbreed or the offspring will have health problems like deformities or short lives, or all kinds of things. Some may be all right but some may not be.
Good luck,
Marty
Quote: Originally Posted by gordano I have 6 canaries all siblings, keeping them in a large flight cage together. I am not sure if they are males or females , they are 1 yer old but none of them is singing, just chipping and stuff like that not actual songs. they are getting along pretty good so far , but a week ago one of them started chasing another one around the cage. It is not interested in other 4 on any of them in he or she , just them two . If anyone knows what is going on ,or any idea please let me know thanks. BTW they were accident , I am not a breeder so i dont know much about this stuff
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| MM |
| | 02/21/10 at 10:27 AM | Reply with quote | #74 |
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Canaries will fight in the air until one falls and that one is killed. They shouldn't be in the same cage. Just a note. |
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| Canary lover |
| | 02/22/10 at 03:11 PM | Reply with quote | #75 |
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A male canary does not 'chase' after the female he is courting. He will dance, sing, display and, later on as the courtship advances, will feed her but there will be no aggression. Most likely those two are the only males and, having reached sexual maturity and the breeding season, one is going after the other trying to scare him off the 'territory' (cage). You better separate them or one of them will be hurt or worse. |
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